My first summing everything up kind of post about our cross country trip was all philosophical and meta and whatnot. This one, on the other hand, makes no pretense of grand observations about the meaning of life…it’s about the mundane, practical details involved in spending two months seeing the country in a travel trailer. We’re planning to make similarly long trips for at least the next two summers (after that, my oldest goes off to college, so we’ll have to see how things go before making big summer plans for then). So we want to spend a little time here thinking about our planning process, what worked well for us, and what we’ll do differently next time.
Some numbers:
miles towed: 6369
states visited: 13
campgrounds stayed at: 28
average miles per gallon towing: 7.5 (yikes, I know. Big family = big trailer and big van)
Trip length:
Sixty days is a long time to be away from home. And yet it’s not nearly enough time to see the whole big country. Two months never seemed so short as it did when I was itinerary planning, trying to fit everything we wanted to see into our available time. And it never seemed so long as it did in the few days before we left, a whole summer full of togetherness and opportunities for disaster stretching out before us.
When people ask me about the trip now, I often make jokes about how long it was, like, “well, we’re all still talking to each other at least!” But, truth is, I think we all were fine with our very long trip. As we got toward the end, tempers started to flare a little more, but I think that was more a function of knowing we were near the end of the trip than of how long we’d been gone, if that makes sense. Ari never admits he wants to be on trips at all, and that did not change, but he was mostly helpful and agreeable and in good spirits. Milo and Gus and Abe talked a lot about missing the dogs and cats (more on that later), but other than that were not especially homesick. They missed friends at home, but spent much of the trip with cousins and friends who’ve moved away, so that was a fair substitute.
I guess the clearest indication that we were good with how long the trip was is that we’ve got an outline for next summer’s trip mapped out, and it’s tentatively one day longer than this summer’s was.
Here are the kids in De Smet, SD, just a few days into the trip, planning out future itineraries:
Aside from the actual length of the trip, I worried a lot during the planning process about how long to stay in various places, how long our driving days could reasonably be, and just overall pacing: trying to break up long stays and short stays, long drives and short drives, etc. So how’d that all go?
How long to stay in one place?
One thing we definitely all agree on is that overnight stays are tiring and not nearly as much fun as longer stays. Even a two night stay gives you so much more time to settle in and to see things. An early draft of our itinerary had a lot of one night stays on it; in the end we consolidated some of the shorter drives into longer ones to give us more time to stay put. Overall, we’re pretty happy with how things went. I just polled the family, and there was nowhere anyone could really point to where they’d take time away from one place and give it to another. At least no consensus. Abe said, “ten days in each place!” Which sounds lovely, but would not be practical on a two month trip. And that’s really the whole thing….if you want to cover a lot of distance in a relatively short amount of time, you have to make some compromises. We had longer than two night stays in St. Louis, Custer State Park, Yellowstone, Livermore, CA, and Austin, TX. Dave and I both agree that it would have been nice to have more time at most or all of our one night stays. There aren’t many places in the country where there’s not enough cool stuff to see to fill up one full day. The KOA in Grants, NM gave us a flyer with a full four day itinerary they had planned out for the area, and it all sounded great….but alas we had to push on Carlsbad Caverns the next day, so we had to settle for a lovely evening playing tetherball in front of 3000 year old lava:
So I don’t know that we’d do anything differently as far as how long to stay in one place on this trip….but we are planning a trip next summer with a shorter overall distance, which should lend itself to being able to travel at a somewhat slower pace.
How long to drive in one day?
In a perfect world, we’d never drive more than 300 miles or so in one day. But we did more than that pretty frequently on this trip–often so that we could spend an extra night somewhere with lots we wanted to see rather than spending a night somewhere we’d just be passing through–and we did okay. Our longest drive was around 450 miles, and we had several that were just on one side or the other of 400. I think a year ago, when Abe was 3 instead of 4, it would have been much harder to do those long days, but this year he was great about them. With the help of the kindle and his newfound love of Daniel Tiger’s Neighborhood and Sid the Science Kid. We tried very hard to leave early on long days, and I don’t think we ever found ourselves getting somewhere after dark. So, again, no regrets on this trip….but I’m looking forward to not needing to do so many long days next summer.
Public vs. private campgrounds:
When I did a post a few months ago, looking back at our first full year of RV travel, I noted that I was surprised by how many more private than public campgrounds we stayed at. For this trip things were more evenly split, with 24 nights at public campgrounds, 27 at private (and the rest staying with Dave’s parents in their condo in Livermore). This trip we made a big effort to scope out good public campgrounds and stay at them when it made sense. I think that generally speaking we prefer public to private campgrounds because 1. the sites tend to be bigger and 2. they’re usually way cheaper. That said, when I look back at our favorite campgrounds on this trip, there are definitely some private ones that make the list. I guess our general rule is that we want to stay in the most well reputed campground in a given area, whether it’s public or private. But there were a number of locations on this trip where there was no clear winner….so all things being equal we went with the less expensive public campgrounds. And doing that saved us hundreds of dollars on this trip; it really adds up on a trip as long as ours.
Contender for best campsite ever: Brantley Lake State Park near Carlsbad, NM
Towing a big trailer with a van/mountain driving:
I’ve run all the numbers approximately 400 times, and on paper our trailer and our van are a good match, but on paper and in real life don’t always match up, so I went in to our first experience towing with lots of mountains at high elevation with some anxiety. The trailer is a Jayco Octane SL 272 toy hauler; it’s just under 34 feet, and it weighs 7000 pounds dry (up to 10,000 loaded, but the “toys” we haul are just bikes, so we don’t come close to that). The van is a 2003 Ford e350 V10.
And….
The van did great!
I’ll say that I was a little surprised by how much the engine was affected by altitude. I knew that was a thing, but we’d never experienced it before, so I was taken aback by just how much….louder the engine was at 7000 or 8000 feet than at the same grades at 2000 feet. And slower. There were a couple of times–mostly going over the Bighorn Mountains–when the van couldn’t get any faster than 35 going uphill. But going back down the same pass, we kept it in second gear and rarely touched the brakes. We never felt unsafe, and the engine stayed nice and cool no matter what we asked it do to (i.e. long, fairly steep climbs and even climbing grades when it was 113 outside. I will say that I wouldn’t mind a diesel engine for the mountains, but I really can’t complain one bit about our big, gas-guzzling van.
Leaving the dogs behind:
We went back and forth about this for a very long time when we were planning the trip. Ultimately, we decided to leave the dogs (and cats) behind with a house sitter for a few reasons. We were going to a LOT of not very dog friendly National Parks on this trip. And we knew we’d be doing a lot of driving during many of our National Park days to get to everything, and that it would be tricky to get back to the dogs in a reasonable amount of time. The dogs do very well alone in the trailer, but, you know…they have to pee and eat sometimes. It didn’t sound like the funnest trip for them–lots of long days alone with just walks at campgrounds in the evenings. We were also going to a lot of hot places, particularly during the second half of the trip, and we were worried about electricity going out and leaving the dogs with no AC. As it turned out, while we never lost electricity for any significant amount of time, we did have a few days where it was so hot that the AC couldn’t really keep up and it got uncomfortably hot in the trailer. We coped with this by going elsewhere during the day, but you can’t really take your dogs to a museum with you. It never got dangerously hot in the trailer, but, still–not necessarily pleasant for the dogs. Also, frankly, it’s way easier not to have three extra living creatures to take care of when you’re traveling.
The dogs were very well taken care of at home, and don’t seem emotionally damaged by our long absence :)….but the kids, especially Milo and Gus, really, really missed them. So we’ll see, but I think it’s fairly likely we’ll be bringing the dogs with us on next summer’s trip.
What we’ll change next year:
Overall, I loved this trip. I miss being on the road, even though I also enjoy our house and being home. But there are definitely things we’ll change or tweak for the next big trip.
I think we had a pretty good balance between eating out/cooking in the trailer or packing lunches (I’d say we averaged 2-3 meals out a week, which is more than we’d do at home, but not that much more)…but we definitely need to expand our meals on the road repertoire. We ate a lot of burgers and chicken and pasta. And for lunches out we did sandwiches sometimes but also often did “snacky lunch” with cheese and crackers, nuts, granola bars, fruit, anything else we could think to throw in the bag. This was fine, but, again…repetitive. So we’ll be collecting ideas and trying to get more exciting next year.
I’d love to have more time to hang out and relax at the campsite on next summer’s trip. Dave and I have somewhat different perspectives on this. I feel like we tried to do too much on a lot of this trip; he thinks that, while we stayed very busy, he has no regrets because there was just so much to see and we still missed things. But we’ll always miss things. And it’s pretty clear that the kids appreciate quiet evenings doing campfires and playing games in the trailer. I’m hoping that next summer’s trip will lend itself naturally to a slower pace–at least some parts of it.
More mundanely, I would like more comfortable, fancier camping chairs. And a smaller rug. We have this giant outdoor rug, and we hardly ever pulled it out. I bought it because I’d seen lots of photos of lovely campsites with giant rugs, and I thought it was The Thing to Do. And I guess it is…for some people. But we find the giant rug a big PITA, and I just want a smallish one to go right by the steps.
….and that’s what I’ve got! Or at least the big stuff. At some point I’ll think/talk more about stuff like trailer organization and what equipment we have/don’t have/wish we had….but we’re well over 2000 words here, so I’ll save that for later.
All the updates I wrote as we went along are linked to below. I’m slowly working on more detailed posts about all our stops and campground reviews for everywhere!
Road Trip Post 1: starting off, St. Louis, etc.
Road Trip Post 2: South Dakota
Road Trip Post 3: Wyoming
Road Trip Post 4: Idaho, Oregon, N. California
Road Trip Post 5: San Francisco and the Grand Canyon
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Mary Anne in Kentucky says
That was fascinating. You must be a good writer since I don’t ever want to go on a trip with a trailer, and certainly not for sixty days! I like staying home so much I have to force myself to go to the grocery on my days off. 😉 I would like to travel some when (if ever!) I retire but my kind of travel is going somewhere, staying awhile, and going home.
My new favorite phrase is “a whole summer full of togetherness and opportunities for disaster.”
kokotg says
Ha–well, thank you for reading my travel blog even though you’re more of a homebody :). My mom is even more like that–she would come visit us back when we lived in Boston, but now that her kids and grandkids are nearby she has no desire whatsoever to go on trips. I guess it’s not genetic ;).
Krystal says
I found your pin fascinating! We are a family of 4+small dog and I’m always intrigued by the idea of purchasing a trailer (5th wheel) to spend some of our valuable summers with our kids, 9 and 6. Unfortunately, we both own businesses that really don’t run well while we are away, and small 3-4 days trips seem like a lot of work (investment, i.e. trailer purchase) for such little actual down time 😟. I will continue to dream though, and live vicariously in reading about your wonderful, and long family trips!
kokotg says
It’s definitely harder to justify the expense of an RV when you don’t know how often you’ll be able to use it; we’ve had some pretty great shorter trips, too, though! Thanks so much for stopping by 🙂
Kristin says
Loved reading your reflections! I’ll admit: I’m a bit intimidated by a 60-day trip. Jarrett is all about “Let’s spend the whole summer on the road!” and I’m like, “Um, no. I might have a breakdown.” 🙂 So I’m still on the fence…
We do find that after about a week on the road you do get into a groove, and as long as you have those “down” days to recuperate along the way, the time flies by and soon you are like, “It can’t be time to go home already!?” So I’m sure at some point I’ll throw caution to the wind and spend the summer on the road; just not next summer. Haha. 🙂
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kokotg says
Your kids are still pretty young, though–Abe was definitely the hardest part about doing the whole summer trip; I’m not sure I would have attempted it if the other three weren’t all old enough to be pretty self sufficient and easy….you’ve still got lots of time :). But, yeah, after a certain point it just started to feel normal and I felt like I could keep going forever (part of me did. Another part of me really wanted to be in a room by myself for a good long time!)
Harmony, Momma To Go says
I love this post so much! So good to reflect on all the good and bad. We just did a week long road trip through CA and its a hard mix to know how long ot stay in one place. we could have stayed for a month in some places and not seen everything! Sounds like the right choice to leave the animals behind.
kokotg says
Thanks so much! Deciding how long to stay in one place might be the single hardest part of trip planning. There’s (almost) always more we want to see.
Louree says
What a fun and adventurous family you have! Great tips for those traveling for a long period… I’d love to do this someday!
kokotg says
Thanks–we had an amazing time!
Wendy says
We have traveled for 3-4 months the last 3 years – abroad. In 2018, it will be our first time doing it with an RV, and in the US. Your learnings are helpful – more than 1 night; smaller rug, and comfy camping chairs; leave the dog home. Thanks!
Ryan says
It sounds very daunting but I’m glad your family managed. I would love to do something similar to this in the near future. Thanks for sharing this inspiring journey!
Chandrika says
This is such a useful guide. Loved reading about your tips and insights..
Mallory says
I love snacks lunch. That is what we eat when we donour road trips, we typically eat two meals a day. Breakfast at the hotel (complimenty), snacks throughout the day (meat, cheese, fruits, veggies) and a dinner at night. Love the post!
kokotg says
Yes–I get tired of sandwiches fast–I’d much rather have a little picnic buffet 🙂
MyCamperFriend.com says
What a trip. Thx 4 the gr8 info. We have a trip coming up this summer and your information will be very helpful.
Mark says
How well did the trailer hold up to the trip? Any mechanical issues that caused you to delay your next stop?
kokotg says
No big issues last summer. We just got back from another 2 month trip, and we had a few more issues this time (happijac bed stopped working, some water damage)….but fortunately it’s still under warranty, and there wasn’t anything that kept us from being able to continue our trip.
Zoe Campos says
My favorite part is where you mentioned that you all felt fine during your long trip. My husband feels worried that RV living would take a toll on our physical and mental health and we’d give up even before our trip could end. If letting him read your article will not convince him, I think we can just rent an RV first and try it for a few weeks to see if this lifestyle is for us.